For more information on this entry as covered by mainstream media sources from The United Kingdom to The United States, please see “The Curious Mystery of George W. Bush’s Vietnam War” by Suzanne Goldenberg and Oliver Burkeman of The Guardian and “George W. Bush’s Military Lies: The Real Story About the Undeniable Service Gaps He Got Away With” by Paul Rosenberg of Salon. Or anybody in Pink Floyd or The Who. Vietnam war draft dodgers reunion opens in British Columbia town Seattle Post Intellingencer ^ | Associated Press Posted on 07/07/2006 12:00:44 PM PDT by siddude "I wanted to validate the experience." George W. Bush only ranks #10 because he at least kind of served, and we want to make it absolutely clear that there is certainly nothing inherently dishonorable about serving in the National Guard, although the actual nature of his particular service has been called into question by impartial journalists around the world. 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Video of adorable little girl in Santa Claus hat who knows how to fire a gun triggers TF out of Lefty 'rapid-response director'. Did Chief Justice John Roberts Really Scream at Conservative Justices Over the Texas Challenge to the 2020 Elections, The Morse Code Ep. That was my view then. How did they react to the war?. In reality, draft boards were so overwhelmed by their responsibilities that supervision of conscientious objectors was minimal. Ali should have been covered under Seeger, but his local draft board found his beliefs to be insincere and sentenced him to five years in prison. Thanks for visiting History and Headlines!  This site exists primarily for educational purposes and is intended as a resource for Dr. Zar’s students.  Articles are mostly written by either Dr. Zar or his dad (Major Dan).  To any guest readers, please keep that in mind when commenting on articles.   Thank you! As a result, Sanders, unlike people who followed the law, is the guy who actually sent some kid off to Vietnam in his place. Wesley Clark: Army 1966-2000, Vietnam, Silver star, purple heart Max Cleland: Captain, Army 1965-68; Silver/Bronze stars, Vietnam Bill Clinton: Did not serve (opposed war) Tom Daschle: 1st Lt., Air Force SAC 1969-72 Gray Davis: Army Captain in Vietnam Although he attended a military prep school from 8th grade through 12th grade, he applied for and was granted a few deferments from the draft and then sought a medical deferment for “heel spurs,” although he does not currently remember which foot was affected!  (The problem seems to have magically disappeared once he was past draft status. Go to college. The unpopularity of the Vietnam War increased both the number and the visibility of conscientious objectors. A lot of people like to say they're patriotic, and even like to act as such; it isn't until it's their time to serve that they show their true colors. of draft dodging. He almost without doubt received a draft notice. Before the lottery was implemented in the latter part of the Vietnam conflict, there was no system in place to determine order of call besides the fact that men between the ages of 18 and 26 were vulnerable to being drafted. SANDERS: Jim and I, under Jim’s leadership, as he indicated, passed the most significant veterans education bill in recent history. In other words, the line between avoidance (legal) and evasion (illegal) was a pretty bright line and much more than a semantic difference. Rush Limbaugh. This guy once said recently of President Obama, “I do not believe the President loves America.”  Well, neither does Rudy as he repeatedly sought and got deferments from the draft, having strings pulled to keep him undrafted even though he had a 1A status (highest, unrestricted draft category) and a high draft number.  (How he pulled this off is unknown. He remained free on bond until his case was overturned in 1971, but hundreds of Muslims (especially black Muslims) went to jail because courts refused to accept their religion as the basis for conscientious objection. READ MORE: When President Carter Pardoned Draft Dodgers Only Half Came Back For its part, the U.S. government continued to prosecute draft evaders after the Vietnam War ended. When I was a young man, I strongly opposed the war in Vietnam. He was drafted and I went through the sad process of saying goodbye to him at the train. Major Dan is a retired veteran of the United States Marine Corps. Prior to his military service, he graduated from Cleveland State University, having majored in sociology. November 24, 1971: The Mysterious D.B. Harris was an anti-draft organizer who went to jail for his beliefs (and was briefly married to folk singer Joan Baez), Miller was the first Vietnam War refuser to publicly burn his draft card (and later became partner to spiritual teacher Starhawk), Elmer refused to Former Vice President Al Gore – enlisted August 1969; sent to Vietnam January 1971 as an army journalist, assigned to the 20th Engineer Brigade headquartered at Bien Hoa, an air base twenty miles northeast of Saigon. Texas Hospital Administers a COVID-19 Vaccine on Video. . This means that every time you visit this website you will need to enable or disable cookies again. Law and Order” also used police officers getting city overtime to drive him to his mistress and provided her with a city police chauffeur service.Â, 8. Mitt Romney.  Bernie Sanders became eligible for the draft in September 1959 but he was enrolled in college and carried a nearly automatic I-S deferment until his graduation in 1964. ), As this list was written back in 2015, a fair update in 2020 would be to include Joe Biden, the Democratic Party nominee for President.  Like Donald Trump, Biden got multiple student deferrals and then a medical deferment, based on having asthma as a teenager, even though he played football and worked as a lifeguard!  It seems both sides of the aisle are replete with “patriots” that did not actually want to serve in the military.  (See question below!). Ted Nugent.  They still call Dick Cheney a draft dodger. The featured image in this article, a photograph of student protesters marching down Langdon Street at the University of Wisconsin-Madison during the Vietnam War era, is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution 2.0 Generic license.  This image, originally posted to Flickr, was reviewed on 26 March 2009 by the administrator or reviewer Yarnalgo, who confirmed that it was available on Flickr under the stated license on that date. Canadian historian Jessica Squires emphasizes that the number of U.S. draft evaders coming to Canada was "only a fraction" of those who resisted the Vietnam War. Tough Guy” heavyweight boxing champ refused to serve when drafted even though, by his own admission, his new religion (Nation of Islam) did not preclude it.  A couple of the men who would go on to beat, This All-American icon of the silver screen starred in more movies than any other leading man in movie history, often playing a brave and patriotic soldier, sailor, airman or Marine.  In reality, this outspoken “patriot” failed to serve in the military, despite being only 34 years old when the U.S. entered World War II.   His real life lack of commitment did not match his “uber-patriot” persona, and he also declined to even run for political office despite pleas from the far right.Â, Your Chance to View a Virtual Screening of. You can find out more about which cookies we are using or switch them off in settings. This is how the draft is dodged. November 23, 1876: “Boss” Tweed Turned Over to Authorities, December 16, 1838: The Battle of Blood River (Boers 3 WIA – Zulus 3000 KIA! They called Mitt Romney a draft dodger. SANDERS: Well, first of all, let me applaud my good friend Jim Webb for his service to this country in so many ways. Sanders applied for a totally specious deferment — one that was facially invalid under the rules of the time — knowing that by the time his local draft board got around to saying no that he could not be drafted. He now had three years of draft vulnerability. He had no deferment and he was 25 years old. 2. Dick Cheney.  Managing Editor at RedState Notable examples of those receiving student deferments include Bill Clinton (1 deferment), Joe Biden (5 deferments), and Dick Cheney (5 deferments). Sanders says he was opposed to the Vietnam War and applied for conscientious objector status. Sure, Canada had turned a blind eye to it and allowed so many to stay, but it’s easy enough to live under the table for a few years. That's real "dodging" in the clearest sense. He married after college and could have sustained a III-A. Even now they are calling Donald Trump a draft dodger though the reflexively left wing PolitiFact has demonstrated this charge to be untrue. Many men saw conscientious objection in the Vietnam period less as a principled stand on religious grounds than as a legal way out of service. He divorced in 1966 and suddenly came to the top of the list. They called Mitt Romney a draft dodger. John Wayne.  This brings us back to Bernie Sanders. The famous liberal Democrat Norman Lear (of Archie Bunker fame) also flew 52 bombing missions, during that war, 37 of them over Nazi Germany. The Seeger ruling did not have a wide impact on conscientious objection because local draft boards were free to interpret the ruling as they saw fit. Although not as hawkish as some of those listed, Clinton did use American military in Yugoslavia and Somalia although he himself avoided the draft during the Viet Nam War Years by pretending to sign up for ROTC, a college-based military officer training program, a legal but sneaky ruse at the time, which perhaps is the type of thing a weasel would and did do.  Oddly enough, he gained the presidency at the expense of George H. W. Bush who had served as a pilot during, This “Mr. By late 1967, U.S. casualties in Vietnam had reached 15,058 killed and 109,527 wounded. What an a-hole. An American ‘draft dodger’, John Lacey, speaks about his decision to leave the United States rather than face conscription and service in Vietnam: “My name is John Lacey. The most celebrated case was that of boxer Muhammad Ali, who in 1966 claimed that military service was inconsistent with his conversion to Islam. Cooper Hijacks Plane and is Never Seen Again. 10. Last night in the Democrat debate, Vermont Socialist (who is unsurprisingly running as a Democrat for president) had this to say about his lack of military service during the Vietnam War: COOPER: [mc_name name=’Sen. By the time he was interviewed and the final disapproval issued by his draft board, he was out of danger. All throughout a young man’s early 20’s he did not know if he would be drafted. King's father, a Second World War veteran who landed at Normandy, helped negotiate a deal with the agents, who had been travelling around the United States looking for Vietnam War draft dodgers. Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, Howard Dean, and Dick Cheney have all been accused of being draft dodgers, even if none of them were by the 1960s definition of the term. Former infantry officer, CGSC grad and Army Operations Center alumnus. He filed a petition to be classified I-O, conscientious objector. We are using cookies to give you the best experience on our website. Thankfully he used his "ingenuity" to get out, and was back home I was born in 1945 and brought up in New York. This was not all that easy to get. Working class kids could get married (III-A), work on a farm (II-C), or join a union and go through an apprenticeship program (II-A). This website uses cookies so that we can provide you with the best user experience possible. Newt Gingrich.  An outspoken hawk of a congressman, Secretary of Defense and Vice President, Cheney repeatedly obtained waivers to avoid being drafted while younger but did not hesitate to send other people’s kids to war.  It is believed by many critics that Cheney was the driving force behind the disastrous decision to invade Iraq in 2003.  Thanks, Dick. Tough Guy” heavyweight boxing champ refused to serve when drafted even though, by his own admission, his new religion (Nation of Islam) did not preclude it.  A couple of the men who would go on to beat Ali for the championship, Ken Norton and Leon Spinks, served in the Marine Corps.  (So did I.). Draft boards were not big on drafting married men. Newspaper article from Rocky Shimpo: “Wyoming Draft Resistance Has Authorities Stumped”, 03/10/1944 (ARC 292810) Behind the barbed wire of the Japanese internment camp at Heart Mountain Relocation Center in Wyoming, a few men received their orders to report for duty. This is what Sanders did. February 5, 1909: First Plastic Invented was called Bakelite! The left tends to make hay by calling Republicans draft dodgers. Local boards called men classified 1-A, 18-1/2 through 25 years old, oldest first. They called George Bush, a fighter pilot, a draft dodger. Draft evaders also peppered the ranks of ROTC detachments and National Guard and Reserve units (II-D). Good draft lawyers were well within the financial reach of most men from middle-class families, and they could at least tie up the conscription system with paperwork for months or even years. >_< FAMOUS DRAFT DODGERS BIll Clinton Jimi Hendrix Rush Limbaugh Who were the Draft Dodgers?. My boyfriend was #14. (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases via links in the “Historical Evidence” sections of articles. Between 1965 and 1970 more than 170,000 registrants applied for conscientious objector status. Nor did Jimmy Page. Although not as hawkish as some of those listed, Clinton did use American military in Yugoslavia and Somalia although he himself avoided the draft during the Viet Nam War Years by pretending to sign up for ROTC, a college-based military officer training program, a legal but sneaky ruse at the time, which perhaps is the type of thing a weasel would and did do.  Oddly enough, he gained the presidency at the expense of George H. W. Bush who had served as a pilot during World War II and even got shot down.  In 1996, Clinton was reelected after he beat World War II hero Bob Dole.  (Obviously, military service means little when the election of presidents is concerned. They called George Bush, a fighter pilot, a draft dodger. 5. polite emails to [email protected] Jerk emails will be blocked. Anyone could look hard enough and find a doctor who would find some medical reason (asthma and hayfever were really popular) to make you IV-F, which was the gold standard of deferments. I take special interest in how other men my age escaped the draft We try to present our students with historical topics that are both diverse and a bit out of the ordinary. Former President of the United States, this macho warhawk avoided the draft during the Viet Nam War by getting a valued slot in the National Guard, done only with string pulling as all slots had been filled.  The icing on the cake is that he even failed to serve that commitment properly and was allowed to leave service early.  Privilege must be nice…. Not the brave men like Jim who fought in that war, but the policy which got us involved in that war. This conservative leader of the Republican party does not hesitate to talk tough about throwing around American military might and bitterly criticizes President Obama for failing to be more decisive with America’s enemies.  For himself, however, he fled to Europe when of draft-eligible age to work as a missionary, tooling around France on his bicycle, returning to the U.S. when it was “safe.”, 7. John Lennon and Mick Jagger had nothing particularly to fear from the draft. This list of Hollywood tough guys and their military service has been put together at random; no significance should be read into the order in which they appear in this article. Well, for starters, many of the most well-known rock artists were British. Overnight these resistors became fugitiveswho could never return to their home country. Bernard Sanders (I-VT)’ chamber=’senate’ mcid=’S000033′ ], tell an American soldier who is watching right now tonight in Afghanistan why you can be commander-in- chief given that you applied for conscientious objector status. Many fled to Canada, the Canadian Border guards were told not to ask many questions (or none at all!) Smith, Glenn W.  Unfit Commander: Texans for Truth Take on George W. Bush.  William Morrow, 2010. Most were successful in gaining conscientious objector status for their clients, who were normally ordered to perform an alternative service of two years of low-paying work in the public sector in a location beyond commuting distance from home. In recent years the term draft dodger has been used often in American politics to attack candidates who managed to avoid serving in Vietnam (although no prominent political figure fled to Canada). He acted wacky at his induction physical to get a 4F rating and therefore be able to avoid the draft, something he told Rolling Stone in 1984, saying that his thoughts at the time were, “I aint going.”  Do not be fooled by his unemployed veteran’s lament “Born in the USA.”  “The Boss” did not serve and wanted it that way. He served during the Cold War and has traveled to many countries around the world. They bid their families a… Growing up in America in a post-Vietnam world, I had always assumed that draft dodgers had come to Canada illegally. It wasn’t enough to be opposed to the war in Vietnam, you had to be opposed to all war. While conducting the research for this article it was interesting to discover the truth behind ), November 18, 1307: William Tell Shoots an Apple off His Son’s Head (Real Heroes or Mere Legends?). This lack of a system resulted in uncertainty for the potential draftees during the entire time they were within the draft-eligible age group. In this installment, we're taking a look at 10 of the most famous people to ever be accused of draft dodging. Cookie information is stored in your browser and performs functions such as recognising you when you return to our website and helping our team to understand which sections of the website you find most interesting and useful. But all he had to do was run out the clock until September 9, 1967 and he would be over 26 and home free. )  Despite hiding from the war, Giuliani is quite vocal about wanting to use American force every time the subject comes up.  Additionally, following the September 11 attacks, he falsely reassured citizens and ground zero workers that the air in New York was safe when it was indeed full of asbestos and other contaminants.  Mayor “Mr. At age 71, I’m the same age as Bill Clinton, Mitt Romney, Sylvester Stallone, Steven Spielberg, Jeff sessions, and GW Bush. We all share experiences of different sorts regarding the Vietnam war. Skip to comments. President Clinton’s archenemy and most vocal critic, Gingrich pulled the same trick to avoid the draft that Clinton did (see below) and topped off his hypocrisy by engaging in an extra-marital affair while lambasting Clinton for the Monica Lewinsky incident.  Of course, this chickenhawk is all gung-ho about committing U.S. armed forces to combat anywhere and everywhere, just not when it involves him or his kids. SANDERS: When I was a young man — I’m not a young man today. Copyright ©2020 Redstate.com/Salem Media. Following his military service, he worked as a police officer eventually earning the rank of captain prior to his retirement. On March 24, 1958, Elvis Aron Presley, the “King of Rock and Roll,” was drafted into the U.S. Army and served his country in Germany, on the front lines of the Cold War.  Millions of Americans have been drafted and responded obediently, and, of course, millions more have served voluntarily.  On the other hand, many American men of draft age or at least of age to serve during a war or conflict chose not to defend their country with their own blood but stayed on the sidelines, only later to pretend to be patriots.  Most of these phony patriots also kept their own kids out of the military as well.  Here 10 such individuals are listed. Even now they are calling Donald Trump a draft dodger though the reflexively left wing PolitiFact has demonstrated this . George W. Bush.  The real draft dodgers of the Vietnam war were those who literally dodged being drafted by escaping to Canada, and then were unconditionally pardoned by President Ford. Student deferments were very common ways of beating the draft, though many students were really in school to be in school and not simply to avoid Vietnam. According to a 1978 book by former members of President Gerald Ford's Clemency Board, 210,000 Americans were accused of draft offenses and 30,000 left the country. Most of these people went to Canada, where they were protected as immigrants while about 10 perfect of escapees went to various places overseas where government agencies weren’t asking a lot of questions. Hagan admits that this number is inexact; when wives and girlfriends are added to the tally, the number may be closer to 100,000. See more ideas about john wayne, wayne, actor john. Go to the VFW hall and ask the people there to help you. Kays, Jackie.  The Stone Throwers: A Man-Hunt For Vietnam War Draft Evaders.  iUniverse, 2001. RedState member since 2004. The american public respected him enough for his stand that he was able to get approval to fight again after a Luckily my brothers had high numbers. U.S. Vietnam war draft dodgers left their mark on Canada Most stayed after the war, "making up the largest, best-educated group this country ever received,'' an archived government report says Between 1965 and 1973, more than 50,000 Vietnam War draft dodgers and deserters chose to come here, according to John Hagan, author of Northern Passage: American Vietnam War Resisters in Canada. This “Mr. I dodged vietnam, as well as 600,000 others appox. Strictly Necessary Cookie should be enabled at all times so that we can save your preferences for cookie settings. 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